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The Evergetinos: Book Three - Chapter II, Part VII

Philokalia Ministries

The Fathers tell us again and again not to judge. We nod our heads. We agree. We repeat the commandment. And then we continue judging. The reason is simple. --- Text of chat during the group: 00:19:25 Fr. Charbel Abernethy: Volume III page 27 paragraph 23 00:29:20 Julie: Sometimes I feel we have to do something in actions not turn first to prayer 00:29:29 Holly Hecker: Judgement is one of the 12 forms of Holy Silence 00:33:58 Holly Hecker: in the book written by fr Basil Nortz, it's the hardest one to detach our dearest possessions - our prescious opinions 00:36:19 Catherine Opie: Apologies I came into the meeting slightly late, can I please request the reference to where we are in the text? 00:36:55 Kate: Page 28, #25 00:37:25 Catherine Opie: Reacted to "Page 28, #25" with 🙏 00:37:52 Bob Čihák AZ: P. 28, #26 00:41:07 Danny Moulton: I struggle with this one because it is not a matter of judging after the fact. How the failure to intervene not a case of failing to show love? Would Christ really have remained silent? 00:42:02 John Burmeister: yes, we will be judged for what did not do, also 00:42:16 Julie: This is close to what my question was on, perfect example for me 00:43:40 Maureen Cunningham: No one listens unless they have a heart change 00:44:59 Anna: Once Catherine of Sienna wanted to suffer for her sins and the sins she caused others to commit. Jesus responded to her the way to handle it is repentance in tears. 00:51:04 Bob Čihák AZ: P. 29, #27 00:54:46 Nypaver Clan: A rusk is twice-baked bread or a hard biscuit 00:56:32 Anna: My son soon will send the art to you but was fixing the beard. 00:56:36 Catherine Opie: Father can you please explain the difference between judgement and gentle correction? 00:56:55 Julie: It is such a hidden judgement where I thought it was more caring 01:00:27 Catherine Opie: however it is a sin to stay silent is it not, in terms of going along with someone elses sin? 01:01:13 Catherine Opie: I am referring to the examination of conscience that is in my missal 01:04:12 Maureen Cunningham: Maybe the Abba understood judgement. And he knew how his life would suffer and his relationship with God would Suffer. 01:14:25 Anna: In Ezekiel 3:18, God warns the prophet that if He declares a wicked person will die and the prophet does not warn that person to turn from their wickedness, the wicked person will die in their sin, but God will hold the prophet accountable for their blood. This concept is reinforced in Ezekiel 33:7-9, where the prophet is appointed as a "watchman"..... Does not speaking up, does it go on your soul? 01:20:04 Danny Moulton: The practice of burning witches provides its own dopamine hit. (sadly) 01:23:57 Catherine Opie: Replying to "The practice of burn..." Interestingly the burning of witches was a pagan practice, the church put an end to it. 01:24:56 Joan Chakonas: Where did the hour go. I thought it was 8 01:25:10 Janine: Great class! Lots to consider…thanks Father 01:25:12 Rebecca Thérèse: Thank you☺️ 01:25:16 Danny Moulton: Tough subject -- good comments. Thanks and blessings to all. 01:25:26 Rachel: Thank you 01:25:40 una: Pray for me please. Special intention 01:25:46 Catherine Opie: Thank you for helping me with the finer subtleties of judgement of others...stil in kindergarten 01:26:01 Joan Chakonas: Reacted to "Thank you for helping me with the finer subtleties of judgement of others...stil in kindergarten" with 👌